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Post by Theseus Ahroun Wed May 19, 2010 11:59 am

This somewhat reminds me of how certian other groups of our kinds act. Granted some form of pecking order and civility must be maintained to keep us from battling amungst ourselfs instead of the outward forces closing in around us, so if this is the chosen form of enforcement so be it. My clan traditionally lacks the social graces possessed by others and the same typically go's for me so if things are going to deteriorate to the point status dictates voice and given levels of status will be required to have an audience I guess I just won't be speaking much.
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Post by Francois Marseille Wed May 19, 2010 3:54 pm

So many things said...

Forgive me, when reading the English language I tend to miss certain subtleties.

Might I inquire as to what other methods for tracking down this Infernal threat have been considered?

Have other areas of the city been searched? Have other domains been "Looked Into?"

Has anyone made any effort what so ever, besides this unpleasant conversation? I would like to remind all involved that I have been attempting to be the voice of reason. This should have been a private matter from the beginning...and it was Mr.Blackwell, Mr. Delacourt, and Solomon who brought it forth as a public affair. I was willing to let it pass even then, provided my counsel was sought...but this was made impossible by those that would rather argue the semantics of what is right or wrong. I include Dellana in this statement as well.

I ask you to set aside your opinions, and review the facts. How is any of this...no matter which side of the argument you fall upon...helping?
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Post by Sayd Galut Wed May 19, 2010 3:59 pm

Well said...Marius...

Only time....will tell.

Mr. Ahroun I merely....enforce... status. As a revered Elder of...Clan Gangrel...it is for you to...change policy. Your..voice...is a powerful weapon...for the cause...of the Gangrel. If the system....does not appeal to you...then speak of change. To be silent...is to do a disservice...to your people.
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Post by Vai Castillian Wed May 19, 2010 9:44 pm

If it would be easier to continue the discussion in French, I'm all for it.
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Post by Francois Marseille Wed May 19, 2010 10:41 pm

Yes let's!

C'est un plaisir d'avoir l'option de parler dans ma langue maternelle. Lesguels de ces heathens parlent francais je demandez-vous?

Vous Joindrez alay bataille a Jackson? Si oui, restez sil vous plait sur. Il y a peu de personnes de qualite laissees dans cette ville.

Votre Ami,
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Post by Marius Wed May 19, 2010 10:52 pm

M. Marseille,

La bataille de Jackson peut impliquer nous tous, si nous l'aimons ou non. L'intrusion de tels imbéciles que près de notre ville parfaite nous exige de prendre des mesures. Si cette action est insuffisante, si parce qu'il est rationné ou planifié à pauvrement, donc nous pouvons être certains de la revanche directe et immédiate. J'ai peur essentiellement qu'à cause de l'intégration publique et sans coutures dans le casino Jackson, nos planificateurs, en l'intention de qui et les capacités j'ai la foi parfaite, le mai par la coïncidence inconsidérée donnent sur un défaut très petit dans la conception ou dans l'exécution de leur plan.

Cela semble le meilleur donc que nous ne quittons aucune ressource inexploitée, aucun individu n'a non alloué et avant tout, impliquer tous les capitaux de qualités de cette ville équitable dans cet effort au fullest et les limites les plus pratiques de leurs capacités.

Je ne peux rendre aucun plus fort soutien en faveur de cette cause. Peut il être réussi et ce qui est plus important, pouvoir nous constatons que c'est juste.

Avec l'honneur,

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Post by Vai Castillian Wed May 19, 2010 11:53 pm

Comme la Harpie a été si bon que de le souligner, je ne suis pas assez courageux pour se battre sur le front de Jackson ou n'importe où ailleurs. Pourtant, je vous assure que ce n'est pas grave si je rester ou partir; Sacramento aura le même nombre de gens de qualité, de toute façon.

Ce que je voulais essayer de faire qui doit avoir été perdu dans la traduction était le suivant: Sacramento est dans la merde maintenant, et si les gens mettent leur vie sur la ligne pour défendre la ville sont obligés de sauter à travers des cerceaux politiques à faire leur emplois, puis Sacramento va tomber. Il n'est pas question pour moi d'une façon ou l'autre, puisque je ne peux redémarrer et à partir chaque fois que je s'il vous plaît, mais lâches comme moi ne peut pas s'empêcher d'avoir un peu d'admiration pour les vrais braves, et je voudrais Voir les faire bien, si seulement parce que cela ferait un bon spectacle à regarder dans les coulisses.
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Post by Solomon Gargoyle Thu May 20, 2010 12:44 am

Speaking of manners and all, isn't it a little rude to speak in a language not all of us may be able to follow? Perhaps such a discussion would be better done in private?
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Post by Marius Thu May 20, 2010 12:53 am

Of course. Apologies. It is so easy to fall victim to the pleasure of speaking with a fellow countryman in a native tongue. Doubly rude to you, since you lack both comprehension and country. Remind me another time and I shall translate for you.
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Post by Theseus Ahroun Thu May 20, 2010 8:16 am

The talking rock has a country he can claim heritage from, just not the same country you come from.
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Post by Guest Thu May 20, 2010 5:41 pm

My apologies Mr Marseille, my remark wasn't meant as a slight to your comments. If you read back at the beginning of this discussion, I supported Dellana's initial comments as to your domain. As I seem to have become "Persona non Grata" in this manner I shall remove myself from this issue. Please let me know if there is any assistance I can provide.

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Post by Solomon Gargoyle Thu May 20, 2010 10:38 pm

The "talking rock" has a name. Please use it.
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Post by Jordy Masterson Fri May 21, 2010 12:45 am

So how ya use this damn...forum thing? We spose ta like talk about stuff or what?
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Post by Vai Castillian Fri May 21, 2010 2:54 am

Hello, there, cowboy. Nice picture. Very Brokeback.
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Post by Francois Marseille Sat May 22, 2010 3:09 pm

I want to apologize as well. I didn't mean to offend by speaking in my native tongue. I was carried away by the moment.

I will try to respond in english. Please forgive any, misunderstandings.

Well spoken Marius. I will confer with my clan mates, and see how we too may support that cause that we discussed. Perhaps an offer of assistance. Most armies require support. We may not be able to...hold our own as well as say..the mighty Brujah, but we can still help the cause.

Vai. While I sympathize with you, I feel there is a certain level of...protocol that should be followed. I don't feel we should allow ourselves to become as the Camarilla is, but neither should we allow ourselves to become as Anarchs. Unity can be achieved, but with the diversity in this city we must have some protocol, or disputes will end in bloodshed. That bloodshed will weaken us against outside conflict. This shouldn't become a philosophical debate. We can analyze this until we have exhausted all possible arguments, and still come to the same conclusion. Some people will never agree with other people. Thus, we need protocol.

There have been deaths in this city in the past due to, and I quote the words of a certain Tremere "A dick waving contest" While a passionate opinion shouldn't be stifled...neither can we allow it to inflame a conflict.

I hope we can look past this...situation, and instead focus on outside conflicts.
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