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Post by Patrick Connely Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:59 am

Revered Elders,

Next Gathering at courts conclusion, I would like a gathering of Elders to be convened to address the policies of the Arbiter, and how we might better be able to accommodate them.

It would seem a great deal is changing, and possibly for the best. Let us see if we can find a way to accomplish the task set before us concerning Jackson, yet not violate the word of Law the Arbiter has established.

Respectfully,
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Post by Marius Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:11 am

I hope it is noted that Jackson is not inside Sacramento County. I doubt it escaped your attention, but I thought it worthy of repetition.
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Post by Theseus Ahroun Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:00 pm

Anything you want prepared before the meeting or we just going to fly by the seat of our pants?
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Post by Patrick Connely Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:17 pm

I want to give the Elders of this city a chance to speak their minds in a forum amongst their peers. A place without fear of retribution, and an opportunity to come to terms in such a manner that will not put strain upon the patience of our Arbiter.

As his title clearly defines, let us work out what we can, and give him the opportunity to Arbitrate what we can not.

I request that the Elders of this city come prepared to address their issues, and be ready to listen to the concerns of others. That's all.
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Post by Vai Castillian Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:41 am

Can I start speaking my mind, now?

The 'meeting' you're describing comes in three flavors: 'A waste of my fucking time', 'A podium for you to whine/grandstand about something', or 'Both'.

Which is fine, I guess. The one thing we vampires have a surplus of is time, and I got some great games on my phone. But it might be more productive to define what the fuck you want us to stand up and say. What issues are we discussing, specifically? Why can't they be discussed here, where I can post in my underwear?

And most important: Any chance we can wait to do this 'till after Jackson? I've got a lot on my plate getting set up for that.
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Post by Marius Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:45 am

I have no objection to the creation of a forum specifically tailored to the Elders of the Clans. I agree that it is most often among ones peers that one feels most honest and most comfortable. Regardless, this shall be the last time I look at this thread, whether a private forum is established for the Elders or not.
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Post by Patrick Connely Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:52 am

Sorry short on time, lots to do for all of us it seems.

Vai, If you feel you're too busy i completely understand. I'll take the minutes of the meeting so you can be properly briefed.

I've already called the meeting. Sorry, it should be brief, and obviously if I am to be General I will need an opportunity to assess the contributions thus far and make changes to the plans as I see fit. Which is of course not the sole reason for the meeting.

Lastly, I'm glad you do not disapprove Marius, as I'm sure you're aware your approval is not necessary, but certainly appreciated.

The meeting will be face to face. I hear their are those within this city whom have not yet created an account upon this forum, and further more...the written word can sometimes fail to convey a person's feelings properly. I don't think we want the most influential body of kindred within this city to be misunderstood.
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Post by Vai Castillian Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:35 am

I don't disapprove of Marius -- I said as much when I voted for him, as you'll recall. But I didn't say anything about it when I noted that meetings with no defined subject usually turn out to be colossal wastes of time.

Anyway, I'll be there. If listening to you carry on about how much Marius sucks keeps me from getting shit done to help for Jackson, that's no skin off my nose. You're the General, after all, and if Jackson's not at the top of your priority list, there's no reason it should be at the top of mine.

OOC: And in this, we have a problem. I've got a birthday party to go to this coming Saturday, and I know that Christine is going to be absent as well. However, ICly, Vai would absolutely not miss this meeting unless she were in torpor or being held prisoner or something.
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Post by Guest Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:04 pm

Tremere will be ready whenever this meeting will be held.

As for a forum, are you talking about a forum on this board? Just to let you know, all city officers and clan leaders have access to the "City Officer" forums. That would be a good place to talk outside the normal everybody can see area.

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Post by Patrick Connely Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:54 pm

Uh...Richard...I wasn't talking about using the Officer Section of the forum.

It will be a Face to Face Council meeting.

See you next gathering.
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Post by Jordy Masterson Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:15 pm

Howdy Patrick,

I thought I should warn ya that I will be out of town next gathering. I've got some things that need doing, and there ain't no way to put it off. I am sorry I won't be able to be there, but I trust Julian Blackwell to speak for clan brujah.

Sorry bout that.
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Post by Theseus Ahroun Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:18 am

Random question. Will somebody be organizing these elder councils on a regular basis?
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Post by Julian Blackwell Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:07 pm

Yes Jordy, I will be more than happy to step in for you at the meeting. Thank you for your consideration.
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Post by Katarinia Giovanni Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:30 am

General Patrick Connely
If it is is not to much trouble and to make sure I arrive at the correct place and time. Where and when will this important meeting be held?

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(((OOC what time during game do you plan this meeting so I can come attend)))

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Post by Larissa Johnson Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:18 am

Patrick,

I can only hope that we will have the opportunity to speak either during this meeting, or prior to, as I owe you a sincere apology. I will of course explain when we have the opportunity to speak in person, but...well, i fully support this elder's counsel idea.

(OOC: Also need the time, as James and I may be tied up till late afternoon with other engagements.)
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Post by Patrick Connely Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:10 am

It is difficult to provide an exact time/date for the Council meeting. Once Marius has called a gathering, and the Keeper has informed me of the location, and time that Marius wishes court to be called...then I can provide a time. However, since we are given very little prior notice as to a gatherings location, and start time, I'm sure you can see my dilemma.

We will be gathered soon, and when we have the opportunity we'll start our meeting.

See you then.
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Post by Vai Castillian Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:42 pm

Why doesn't someone just host us outside of court gathering time? I mean, there's no need to be chained to the Arbiter's arbitrary decision to call court and where to call court.

I'd volunteer, but I doubt you guys would enjoy the meeting place I can provide.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:05 pm

Nice pun...

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Post by Katarinia Giovanni Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:48 pm

I must ask. Val are you offering boat or tunnel?

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Post by Patrick Connely Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:11 am

An excellent Idea Vai.

I apologize to the Revered members of this council for not making proper arrangements sooner.

As it was I that called for this meeting, It would be quite rude of me not to host the gathering. If it pleases the council, I will rent a home within my domain, and provide the address to all those that will be attending.

Although it is unfortunate that Jordy will not be able to attend, his absence creates a unique opportunity. Since our Keeper of Elysium will be in attendance during this gathering on Jordy's behalf, I will provide him with the address prior to anyone else, and humbly request he deems the building a Temporary Elysium. If he deems the building secure enough, it will be granted all rights and protections that Elysium provides until the conclusion of the evenings meeting.

Rest assured I will not offend you with any misguided attempts at providing entertainment or refreshment. I trust you all can provide for your own needs before arriving, and this is a business meeting, not a party.

As a show of respect, please do not bring any ghouls, retainers, or snacks.

Thank you
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Post by Vai Castillian Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:44 pm

Like hell I'm letting y'all on my boat.

Sounds like a good idea, General. Give us the when and where, and I'm in.
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